Obama is trying to destroy this Country..

[LegendofNation]

The ONLY way these Muslim Radicals can defeat us is on the inside, and that is EXACTLY what Obama is doing. Say otherwise and you're a damn liar.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/03/20/budget-deficit-forecast-hit-trillion-year/

President Obama's budget would generate deficits averaging almost $1 trillion a year over the next decade, according to the latest congressional estimates, significantly worse than predicted by the White House just last month.

The Congressional Budget Office figures, released Friday, predict Obama's budget will produce $9.3 trillion worth of red ink over 2010-2019. That's $2.3 trillion worse than the White House predicted in its budget.

Worst of all, CBO says the deficit under Obama's policies would never go below 4 percent of the size of the economy, figures that economists agree are unsustainable. By the end of the decade, the deficit would exceed 5 percent of gross domestic product, a dangerously high level.

[gallavol]

The man is trying to clean up your boy Bush's shit. You ought to write him and give him the benefit of your vast knowledge of economics. I'm sure he would value your advice, course he could just watch Fox News to be straightened out. All you know is what they tell you on Fox.

[semcclarin]

The man is trying to clean up your boy Bush's shit. You ought to write him and give him the benefit of your vast knowledge of economics. I'm sure he would value your advice, course he could just watch Fox News to be straightened out. All you know is what they tell you on Fox.

So I guess you get all your information from CNN.....

tnphil

[LegendofNation]

The man is trying to clean up your boy Bush's shit. You ought to write him and give him the benefit of your vast knowledge of economics. I'm sure he would value your advice, course he could just watch Fox News to be straightened out. All you know is what they tell you on Fox.

typical radlib talk. Not much else you moe-rons can say when the facts are put right in your face, or when CNN aint around to spin it for you.

Obama is NOTHING more than a typical tax, and tax, and tax, and tax and tax and spend demmycrat without a clue what is going on.

Now this clown has just FORCED PRIVATE CONTRACTS TO BE ILLEGALLY, THATS RIGHT, ILLEGALLY TAXED because HE and his merry group of IDIOTS FUCKED UP. It should be his multi-million dollar ass paying the 165m back, NOT the people who signed LEGAL CONTRACTS to be paid.

THREE MONTHS in office and this shitbird has almost tripled the national debt. THREE MONTHS. It took Bush 8 years, two wars, 9/11, Katrina disaster, collapse of the banking system (ty Barney Frank and Bill Clinton and all the rest of the posse), collapse of the credit industry (read above), to this level, and Mr. Hussein has TRIPLED IT IN THREE MONTHS, and INSTEAD of giving money BACK to the people that need it, he GIVES it, without even knowing WHAT THE FUCK is being done with the money, to the very people that helped shit it away.

Not only should he be impeached he should be deported back to where ever he came from, and the people he works for. NO ONE can be this stupid.

[LegendofNation]

the same FACTS right off of one of your radlib dick sucking sites.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29791927/

feel better now?

[volchef]

The man is trying to clean up your boy Bush's shit. You ought to write him and give him the benefit of your vast knowledge of economics. I'm sure he would value your advice, course he could just watch Fox News to be straightened out. All you know is what they tell you on Fox.

Typical liberal bullshit. You can't fight with logic, so you call names. Hate to tell you, but I didn't vote for Bush, didn't like him, don't like him and I'd venture to say he was very nearly as liberal as Obama, just a liberal that didn't loathe the military. Why don't you inform how to save the world from an egalitarian and liberal perspective using your vast economic knowledge and I'll be glad to point out exactly how mind numbingly wrong you are.

[Polemicvol]

Perhaps you can share your conservative and elitist solutions to our current economic travails, and I can tell you how mind numbingly ignorant you are.:nutkick:

[volchef]

I asked first. But if you refuse to answer the question I will be happy to do so. I'll start out by taking a look at tax revenue in the Reagan years if you'd like an example of where I'm going to begin. Bone up my friend. You are not messing with the right girl.

Oh, and why am I elitist? Do you know me? Or is that just more liberal name calling?

[stonersboners]

You want economic advice for Obama....try cutting taxes, abandon cap and trade, build some nuclear plants, let failing business fail, enforce immigration laws....should I go on?

[volchef]

And why don't all you do gooder liberals just give your money to charity anyway? Private charity is more efficient than government anyway.

Yes, liberals......the only people in the world who say they hate guns, but want to empower the few with them. It is not fair, egalitarian, or in any way wise to let a handful of armed men threaten control your life. That's what liberalism does and that's why liberalism always has and always will fail. Without enforcement you know damn well people won't pay their fair share. There is NO WAY around the enforcement issue. You must make people surrender to YOUR will with superior weaponry/confinement/or harassment. Have you ever been audited? And I'm cruel and elitist? Cruelty is looking down the barrel of a gun simply because my job pays a different wage than someone elses. Should I be entitled to stick a gun in an AIG CEO's face just because I disagree with the money he earned? Should you? Then why should a group of men? Isn't that ultimately more dangerous than an individual? Whatever, I'm signing off, this is going to piss me off more than I need on a Friday night.

[Polemicvol]

But I like my chances in a economic discussion. Call me crazy, but that's just how I roll.

How about this one....

Reagan saved his economic record and our nation's economy in his second term, from the damage caused by his radical tax cut philosophy, by reversing a large portion of his tax cut agenda, by....raising taxes.

Good thing he wasn't a dogmatic tax cut ideologue like the Reagan worshipers who came afterwards.

What, Poley says tax increases result in higher economic growth? Say it's not so.... (http://www.forbes.com/2009/02/26/obama-budget-reagan-clinton-bush-opinions-columnists_higher_taxes.html)

Republicans have also developed a certain mythology about Ronald Reagan's administration. They think he held the line on taxes and that this forced Democrats to accept spending cuts. The evidence, however, could more easily be interpreted in the opposite direction: Democrats forced Reagan to raise taxes in return for insignificant spending cuts. He himself later lamented that none of the cuts in appropriations he had been promised by congressional Democrats were ever implemented.

As the table below demonstrates, Reagan signed into law major tax increases every year of his presidency after the first. By the end of his presidency, he took back half of the 1981 tax cut in the form of higher taxes. And it should also be noted that when confronted with a crisis in Social Security in 1983, Reagan endorsed a rescue plan drafted by Alan Greenspan that consisted almost entirely of higher taxes.

Legislated Tax Changes by Ronald Reagan as of 1988

Tax Cuts Billions of Dollars
Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981
-264.4

Interest and Dividends Tax Compliance Act of 1983
-1.8

Federal Employees' Retirement System Act of 1986
-0.2

Tax Reform Act of 1986
-8.9

Total Cumulative Tax Cuts
-275.3




Tax Increases Billions of Dollars
Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982
+57.3

Highway Revenue Act of 1982
+4.9

Social Security Amendments of 1983
+24.6

Railroad Retirement Revenue Act of 1983
+1.2

Deficit Reduction Act of 1984
+25.4

Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.9

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1985
+2.4

Superfund Amendments and Reauthorization Act of 1986
+0.6

Continuing Resolution for 1987
+2.8

Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1987
+8.6

Continuing Resolution for 1988
+2.0

Total Cumulative Tax Increases
+132.7

[stonersboners]

ohh...ok Libs, I think my thick dense conservative skull gets Obama's economic plan....

Lets see.....1st we will tax the crap out of it first time through.....
Then, we will redistribute based on need...(to each according to their need)
Then we will tax the crap out of it when it comes back through.

That should fix it.

[Polemicvol]

Guns don't protect your rights. The public's belief and confidence in our Constitution and adherence to the rule of law is what protects your rights and preserves our democracy.

Do you really believe a few handguns will protect you from a government run amock, a government which has abandoned the foundations of our Constitution and the rule of law? That's absurd, the government's tanks and planes will crush you and your personal weaponry like a bug.

However the people can stand up to tanks and guns, as they did during the Russian overthrow of Communism and during the Orange revolution in The Ukraine. When the will of the people stands firm, the will of militarists will wilt every time.

There wasn't a weapon in sight during the overthrow of Communism in nation after nation. And the armies stood down. Because the armies reflect the will of the people.

You protecting anything other than your house with a gun is silly nonsense.

[volchef]

Boooooring. Same old liberal crap. Let's tax our way to prosperity! Yippee. Well here are some numbers directly from YOUR OMB.


Total federal revenues doubled from just over $517 billion in 1980 to more than $1 trillion in 1990. In constant inflation-adjusted dollars, this was a 28 percent increase in revenue.3

As a percentage of the gross domestic product (GDP), federal revenues declined only slightly from 18.9 percent in 1980 to 18 percent in 1990.4

Revenues from individual income taxes climbed from just over $244 billion in 1980 to nearly $467 billion in 1990.5 In inflation-adjusted dollars, this amounts to a 25 percent increase.


See all of you liberals base your finding on the decreased federal revenues as a lump sum of the GDP. However, with more earning and capital it is not necessary for the GDP to be as large. Total revenues INCREASED. There is no way around that problem. The problem with the Reagan years is the same problem we've had since FDR. Big spenders in the US Congress. Reagan sold out by NOT standing up to them.

[ZippyVol]

Guns don't protect your rights. The public's belief and confidence in our Constitution and adherence to the rule of law is what protects your rights and preserves our democracy.

Do you really believe a few handguns will protect you from a government run amock, a government which has abandoned the foundations of our Constitution and the rule of law? That's absurd, the government's tanks and planes will crush you and your personal weaponry like a bug.

However the people can stand up to tanks and guns, as they did during the Russian overthrow of Communism and during the Orange revolution in The Ukraine. When the will of the people stands firm, the will of militarists will wilt every time.

There wasn't a weapon in sight during the overthrow of Communism in nation after nation. And the armies stood down. Because the armies reflect the will of the people.

You protecting anything other than your house with a gun is silly nonsense.

Blah blah blah. There is a reason the government cant just, on a whim, use it's military against it's populace. These are the same reasons it is so disconcerting that many police departments have swat teams which more closely resemble paramilitary forces rather than police officers sworn to protect and serve. But, I wont really get into the discussion about why this particular line of argument in favor of gun control is so...stupid. I wont get into it because you dont care. You show your lack of seriousness by simply bringing up this point as if it has any real relevance. This is just an article of faith for you, a political talking point and nothing more; reality doesnt matter. So rather than get into the specifics of your stupidity, specifics detailing how guns dont HAVE to protect you from a tank to still protect your rights on a smaller scale. I'll just posit that guns protecting JUST one's home...without respect to any other larger protection...is nothing even remotely resembling silly nonsense.

At all.

[LegendofNation]

[QUOTE=Polemicvol;6070]Guns don't protect your rights. The public's belief and confidence in our Constitution and adherence to the rule of law is what protects your rights and preserves our democracy.

Looks like Hussein just violated the Constitution by illegally confiscating money from private citizens.

Move to the next excuse Polio.

[Polemicvol]

So what did President Obama do wrong most recently in crazy wingnut world?

[Polemicvol]

Wow, you could make a point, but you won't, cause you say I won't listen.

Whatever.

[gallavol]

Ah.. my original argument was against calling Obama a muslim and attacking his ecomomic policy with blather from Fox News nonsense. Who said anything about the right of a citizen to own a gun? We finally have an intelligent person in the oval office at a critical time in our history. Why not support him. If he is wrong he will not be in office in four years. We have the vote and the Constitution. Why not follow and use them, instead of Fox News hysteria or CNN prattle?

[ZippyVol]

Wow, you could make a point, but you won't, cause you say I won't listen.

Whatever.


I did make a point, which you would have noticed, if you were not retarded. Maybe you can join Obama at the special olympics.

[Polemicvol]

An undefended and unexplained "point" is horseshit. And horseshit is exactly what you posted.